“I’m not called to judge”

This is personally one of the most frustrating things I often hear from Christians. This couldn’t be further from the truth. The Bible explicitly says that it’s the duty of the Christian to judge other Christians, not non-Christians though (1 Cor. 5:12). If my brother or sister in Christ does something wrong, then I need to lovingly let them know that they are doing something wrong and help them to do what is right (Eph. 1:15). Matthew 7:1 (“Do not judge”) means to not judge self-righteously or hypocritically. It doesn’t mean to never judge. This is clear by actually reading the entire section (Matt. 7:1-6), but we’re lazy so we don’t read further.

“Tattoos, drinking alcohol, or listening to secular music is unbiblical”

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These are all common things that people have said, but they’re all untrue. Addressing these untrue statements should need more than what I will quickly write here, but, nonetheless, here we go:

Tattoos:
The Old Testament says (Let. 19:28) to not have markings on your skin (i.e. tattoos). This seems pretty straightforward. However, God issued this command to distinguish the Israelites from the surrounding pagans. Pagans were doing detestable things like sacrificing their children and they also had tattoos that were prominent. God never wanted anyone to mistake an Israelite for a pagan, so He didn’t even want them to look similar. This is why God didn’t want the Israelites to have tattoos.

Fast forward to today, the issue is different. In the OT, God’s focus was Israel. God even called Israel His “treasured possession” (Duet. 7:6). To be clear, God did intend the Israelites to be a light to the Gentiles (Isa. 49:6) so that some of the Gentiles would come to know Yahweh, but God definitely focused in on Israel as part of His salvation plan for the world. With Jesus coming on the scene, God’s focus expanded to the Jew and the Gentile (John 3:16). No longer is God heavily concerned with people knowing who is a Jew and who is a Gentiles. The moral laws in the OT Law still remain, but not the dietary or appearance laws. Lastly, nowhere in the NT does it say that tattoos are to be avoided.

Alcohol:
Jesus turned water into wine (John 2:1-11), Paul tells Timothy to drink alcohol (1 Timothy 5:23), and Jesus and His disciples were drinking alcohol at the Last Supper (Luke 22:7-23). These are just a few examples to disprove this weak argument. To be clear, the Bible says to not be “drunk with wine” (Eph. 5:18). The purpose of this is clear, since have you ever seen someone drunk? They look ridiculous and act stupid. The Christian can’t like that since we’re Christ representatives here on earth (2 Cor. 5:20). We need to honor Christ by representing Him well.

Listening to secular music:
There is no universal answer to this issue. You might feel that listening to secular music isn’t good for you, while someone else might decide that it’s ok for them. Why? Listening to secular music isn’t a sin. I can’t back that up with a Bible verse because the Bible doesn’t address the issue at all. It’s been said, “Be silent when the Bible is silent”. This is good to remember. Don’t try to use Bible verses out of context to say something that the text doesn’t say. To be clear, Christians shouldn’t listen to songs about raping and degrading women and other things like that. However, not all secular music is that repulsive.

“What Would Jesus Do?”

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This is one of the most popular sayings in all of Christianity. Why do I have a problem with this? Aren’t Christians called to be more Christ-like? Plain and simple, Jesus’ mission is different than our mission. Jesus was sent into the world to testify to the Father (John 18:37), atone for our sins (Matthew 2:21), and be resurrected (Mark 8:31). What the Father would have Jesus do would be different than what Jesus would have us to do. Instead of asking what Jesus would do, ask what would Jesus have me do.

There were times when Jesus was confronted by people and He spoke to them as the Son of God. We won’t ever be able to do that. What Jesus would do is different than what we should do. This are similar, since loving others like Jesus and things of that sort is what Jesus did and what we should do, but asking this question on specific instances wouldn’t be the best thing to do. We’re followers of Jesus, not Jesus.

“Speaking in tongues means you’re more in tuned with the Holy Spirit”

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I’ve been told this in various ways from good-hearted Christians. People who say this aren’t only unbiblical, but they’re also annoying beyond belief. Speaking in tongues is a spiritual gift (1 Cor. 12), not the greatest spiritual gift. Don’t get it confused. This is short, but it had to be in this list.

“I hate all things secular”

If you constantly bad mouth secular music and secular movies and if you only live within your Christian bubble, then how do you expect to communicate to anybody who aren’t Christians? The Apostle Paul wasn’t scared to quote from the pagan poets (1 Cor. 15:33). Jesus stepped outside His Christian bubble and went places and did things other believers, at that time, wouldn’t do (Mark 2:13-17). I’m not saying to enrich yourself in the “things of the world”, but listening to Justin Beiber or watching “Modern Family” won’t ruin your faith and could be used to start a conversation with a non-believer. Stop living in your church and expecting non-believers to come strolling in on sunday. Step outside your little bubble and go to the people. Jesus didn’t wait in buildings for others to come to Him, instead Jesus went to them. Get outside your Christian bubble.

“If you’re a Christian, you can’t believe in abortion or support gay marriage”

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Before you start throwing stones at me, let me explain this one. To be clear, abortion and gay marriage are both unbiblical. I’m personally against both and feel all Christians should be. However, to be a Christian isn’t about having all your beliefs be the right ones. You can have false beliefs (i.e. speaking in tongues means you’re more in tuned with the Holy Spirit, having tattoos and listening to secular music is un-biblical, etc.) and still be a Christian. This is not to say that it’s ever okay to have these incorrect beliefs. You should have a spiritual mentor in your life to help correct these beliefs. I’ve had incorrect beliefs before and I’m not prideful enough to think that I have completely perfect beliefs now. However, I’m still a Christian.

To be a Christian is about having faith in Jesus, not about having perfect beliefs about secondary issues. There are core tenets of Christianity that you have to believe to be a Christian (i.e. Jesus is God, God exists within a Trinity, you don’t earn your salvation, the Bible is the Word of God, etc.). However, believing that abortion and gay marriage are wrong isn’t a core tenet of Christianity. We, as imperfect people, won’t have perfect beliefs on this earth.


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Jordan Kranda
Follower of Jesus. Husband to Ariel. Master’s of Theology (Greek Track) Graduate. Future Pastor. Present lover of cheese, Blink-182, & watching sports.

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  2. Comment: Believing that Bible is word of God, is a “core belief” as you put it and yet, Murder(Abortion) and gay marriage – which are an abomination in the Bible are “secondary belief’s”, that you could choose to believe in “later on” ?

    Be careful what you write – you could be misleading people and causing some to sin. Is it not written about “tying a rock and being thrown into the sea” being better than causing some one to sin.

  3. I completely disagree with what you have written about ink:the issue is no different today than in OT times:tattoos identify one with the world, not the kingdom of God.
    Im talking about believers that willingly get ink after they are born again not people that got tats before trusting Christ.
    If it werent so, God wouldnt have told the Israelites not to have them. Lev 19:28 is very clear-while we arent under the law the principal of identifying with the world remains.

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  6. Be careful with referring to the Holy Spirit. You wouldn’t blasphemy against the Holy Spirit its the unpardonable sin.

    Also make a post about the importance of repentance

  7. To start, I think a better for this post should be “Seven Things Christians Shouldn’t Say to Unbelievers.”

    To be honest, I don’t agree with the way you defined each of these phrases, mostly the one regarding tattoos, alcohol, etc, and the other regarding all things secular. Let me explain why.

    1 Corinthians 10:23 KJV “All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.”
    The context of this verse is regarding the meat offered to idols that some members of the church at Corinth were purchasing and/or accepting during a meal. Paul addressed this because while some in the church were stronger Christians, also never worshipping these idols to begin with, felt no prick of their consciences when they partook of this meat. There were other weaker believers in the church that had been saved from this idolatry who couldn’t understand that there was no issue with the meat itself because they at one time had sacrificed meat to idols and ate it as worship to those same idols. They equated this eating of meat to the worship of the idols. To avoid any stumbling, Paul explained previously in 1 Corinthians 8:13 KJV “Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.” Then he states in chapter 9:19-23 KJV “For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.” And the last verse 27 “But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.”
    Here Paul explains that he would become “AS weak” or “AS without law” and so forth to reach those such people. He also said he brings “it [his body] into subjection.” Just because he had the liberty to do things, such as eating meat, did not mean he should. I have unsaved coworkers and even some Christian friends who have tattoos and piercings; but I won’t get a tattoo on my body for the purpose of showing them that I’m human or that I’m not judging them. I’m not going to trash my mind by watching certain TV shows or listening to some quote-on-quote secular music. Why would I take even a glass of alcohol with a friend just to tell them I’m here for them? How can I reach someone for Christ or welcome them back if I’m in the same thing they are? Is it possible you’ve taken this “no judgment” thing too far to basically say “Go get a tattoo” or “Watch such and such a show because you’ll be able to talk about with this person you’re trying to reach”? You can reach with world without being caught up in becoming the world.

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  9. You probably won’t see this now, but thanks for this Jordan! The last one really gave me peace; it’s always been difficult for me to bridge the gap for my unsaved friends who don’t understand how Christ centered Christianity is, but why the Law is still important. You’re awesome man!

  10. In regards to the “I hate secular things” and “secular music” topics- I don’t like the saying secular verse Christian in general. Nothing is secular. Everything is created by God, for God. Christian music is just music about Christianity, music can’t be a Christian. I just think that differentiating this world is wrong by using those two terms when God clearly tells us that he is the creator of all things. How can God create something “secular”? He can’t. Everything he creates is of Him and for Him

  11. I just wanted to say I agree with 95% of the article and it was well articulated. In regards to abortion and gay marriage I don’t think any case can be made for their validity, which you yourself pointed out. I also would venture to say that marriage being one man and one woman isn’t only a “secondary” issue, it’s a prominent issue and it shouldn’t be undermined on any level. I realize that as Christians we are to love others and that people who become Christians aren’t immediately transformed (although that isn’t beyond the scope of possibilities as miracles happen every day). I believe that there are people who can attend a church, commit their lives to Christ, and then have a list of things they need to work on and repent from in order to draw closer to Jesus Christ in their personal relationship. It’s important to remember that abortion is murder, so having one done is a violation of one of the Ten Commandments. It’s also important to recall that gay marriage isn’t acceptable, and both the OT and NT make clear points why homosexuality is sinful. I would look for the references, but I am sure you are well versed in these Jordan.

    I suppose ultimately I agree with how you arranged almost everything in this article, but I think that while they’re not core aspects of being saved they are extremely important issues to have a Biblically accurate stance on. One man, one woman for marriage and pro-life over being pro-choice are very intuitive choices for anyone who reads a Bible and takes God at His word.

    Apart from that though you made some fantastic points regarding wine, secular music/media, tattoos (one which I didn’t really have a firm stance on since I don’t have a desire to get one), and about the danger of asking WWJD in scenarios where we cannot place that expectation upon ourselves or we simply don’t have the capacity to handle that calling.

    Keep rocking, I appreciate the vast majority of your articles and just wanted to voice a few of my concerns about this one. Big fan, I recommend your site to my friends on a regular basis.

  12. I agree on some of what you said, but not all. No, you can’t prove by the Bible that drinking alcohol is wrong, but Christians are better off not doing it – well, everyone is better off not doing it. As a friend of mine says often, there is a lot of defense why it is OK, but no one can come up with a good reason why Christians SHOULD drink alcohol. To fit in? We shouldn’t fit in.

    And I really disagree with you that Christians can believe in abortion. You seem like an intelligent young guy, so I assume you haven’t bought into the lie that it isn’t a baby…… but if you haven’t, how can you say a Christian can support the murder of an innocent baby….. support someone ripping that baby apart in the womb?! I think any Christian who supports it, and votes for politicians who support it, need to quit calling themselves a Christian… its murder. And a Christian cannot support that. Or gay marriage…. why quit at those two? Why not say Christians can support child molestation, rape, robbery. etc….. I’m gay, though trying to live right, and I get it that Christians cannot support gay marriage. Sorry, but you’re way off on on that and abortion. If you disagree, I challenge you to do a post and explain how Christians can support gay marriage and abortion, and not support the sins I listed, and other sins……. it sounds like you’re buying into the liberal idealogy, and the idealogy that homosexuality isn’t a sin, and that abortion isn’t muder, but a “choice”

  13. It’s bad to listen to music that doesn’t glorify God, people like Beyonce,Rihanna, Justin Bieber don’t glorify Jesus with there music but the devil, so listening to those kind of music is bad, people should know that. Having a tattoo is unbiblical read Deuteronomy you will.
    We as follower of Jesus, shouldn’t behave like pagans.

    • While I agree that a lot of secular music is unworthy of our attention, some other music such as “instrumental” music or music from artists that don’t have such abominable choice of words is still within that realm so to speak. Personally I like artists such as Diana Krall, Santana, Eric Clapton, Armik, Andrea Bocelli, Lindsey Sterling, Sade, and Barry White on occasion. Feel free to call me an old man in a young man’s body or what not, but I think there’s a time and place for me to enjoy some of their work. Granted a large portion of the time my car is locked in on Christian radio and my main choice of music is all Christian (Casting Crowns, Third Day, Jesus Culture, Tenth Avenue North, and Hillsong United just to name a few). My point is that not all secular music is completely devoid of substance, demeaning towards women, or offensive in a plethora of other ways. Some of it has quality instrumentals, interesting collaborations, thought provoking lyrics, and are actually capable of being enjoyed without keeping my mind focused on the “garbage of the world”. Often times the songs revolve around love and are superficial in comparison to praise and worship music, but I believe there is a time for all of it even if the majority of my time is still spent with the Christian music.

      I think his point was equally strong about movies for instance. You might want to enjoy a secular movie, and have decided that it has more redeeming value and substance than negatives like curse words, nudity, or any other irresponsible or unreasonable exposures for Christians to be bothered with.

      Just some food for thought, God bless.

  14. I thought your points were well made and that your rebuttals were polite and from the heart. I am certainly not perfect and I’m not sure any of us truly know the meaning of all scripture but I think a balance of living in love as we were taught by Christ and striving for a closer relationship with God on a daily basis is a great start and truly has helped me on a personal level. Thank you for sharing and God bless you in your journey, I think you will be a fantastic Pastor, unfortunately you’ll encounter many people who think they know it all better than you! Haha

  15. I disagree with you in that I see nothing wrong with saying “what would Jesus do?” If we are indeed called to be more Christ-like then we should be attempting to be more LIKE Christ. If we can agree that this is true, then how could one argue that considering what Jesus would do in a certain situation isn’t the correct thing to do?

  16. Not too sure what I think about your last point, but all in all this was a very good post. I may have to start reading more of your stuff 🙂

  17. The part you said Jesus was sitting around with the disciples at the last supper drinking wine. So many believers skip this verse and it’s said on how many people they can actually stumble while using and taking advantage of this event.

    In Luke 22:18 NKJV Jesus speaking, “for I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the Kindom of God comes.”

    So if Jesuas didn’t drink at the communion feast. Then why do believers use this as an ok to drink? I’m sure Jesus did drink wine here and there. Because there was no coke or Pepsi etc… But I think as believers we should also ask, was it fermented or not? Plus if a believer in this area struggles with alcohol them we should respect that person as Paul would teach in 1 Corinthians 8, when he talks about our Christian liberty.

    Don’t take this personal just asking a question.

    Blessings to you and your family. Your doing great for the King.

    • Eric, I’m intrigued by your question about Luke 22:18. The Last Supper was a Passover meal. This verse is in context of the four cups of Passover (which are all promises) and it has been said to symbolize how Jesus the Messiah fulfills these promises. Which is why Jesus didn’t drink the wine here but instead instructed the disciples to do so. (If you don’t know much about Passover, particularly the four cups, I encourage you to research it. It’s kind of more than beautiful how seemlessly symbolism flows from old to New Testament. )
      But anyway, Passover should not be used as instructions to drink or not drink alcohol for it is more of remembrance (why we do communion). Traditionally, Passover used wine. And so they did at the last supper. And so it is proof that Jesus drank wine and instructed disciples to do so. It is not entirely known whether it is similar to today’s wine. But Passover should not be used to argue yay or nay on alcohol for the bible is clear to not get drunk. Which to me means examine the reason behind the drinking and cease if it may cause you or others around you harm.

      Jordan, great post. I can easily see it as a post you could expand into a small series (noting by the comments, there are a lot of questions out there) you always speak so much truth and it is because of the Truth that lives in you.

  18. Hey Jordan, I do agree with your points and I just wanted to say they definately will help me when a friend at school asks about these things. Thanks for sharing!

  19. I disagree with your last one. Any definition of a religion sorely misses the point of what our relationship with Christ is. Being a follower of Christ is so much more than a list of rules or a group of tenets that you all agree to. A relationship says that this is something personal. That relationship is going to be different for every person because God has different things for each of us to do. A relationship is something alive, something changing and growing and deepening every day. It requires communication on both sides to stay alive. That relationship is dependent only upon one’s self and God. Like Noah, even if everyone else abandons God, I don’t have to. You don’t even have the definition for a religion right. A religion is NOT an agreement by people about the nature and purpose of the world. A religion is an agreement between people about the nature of GOD and our place in the world with Him. Yes, Christianity is a religion. But a relationship with God is so much more important than what any group of people “agree” about God.

  20. As for animals, they live of off instinct. They do not have the ability to choose like humans. They can adapt and learn, but only humans were given free will. It does not work comparing humans with animals because we are two totally different creatures.

  21. I’ve been struggling with believing that homosexuality is sinful given that I watched a video on YouTube last week and the guy gave different interpretations to passages that we usually use to say that homosexuality is sinful. He basically said that the Bible is neutral regarding it because those passages have been taken out of context and misinterpreted by most. What I’m struggling with is reconciling my belief that the Bible is true, with the belief that the passages about homosexuality have been taken out of context and misinterpreted. If God really does abhor homosexuality, then how can I be a Christian and believe that homosexuality isn’t sinful? That isn’t a rhetorical question…I’m looking for an answer. Also, I know this has nothing to do with your post, but if God so hates homosexuality, then why are some animals homosexual?

    • “Therefore God gave them up in their lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dis honoring of their bodies among themselves” Romans 2:24
      Everyone has their own sin that they struggle with. We each give ourselves excuses or convince ourselves that the sin we are in is okay. For the guy who won’t look at porn but will lust after a girl convinces himself that his sinful thoughts are better than his nonextent sinful actions.
      Sin sucks. I’m sorry that you are specifically struggle with this sin because people place it on a platform above their own sin. Sin is sin! Instead of tearing down encourage people! (That wasn’t to you, just a slight rant)
      Pray specifically that God may reveal to the depravity of your heart and your sin. Then find verses the deal with homosexuality and adultery and memorize them. Lastly, find accountability!!!

      I don’t know who are and I don’t know what you are going through but I will be praying for you.

      Also, Jordan great post! Keep striving to serve Christ and thankfully you’re human and you make mistakes (not that you made any with this post) but if people don’t see your post as “perfect”…praise God because you’re not Jesus. 🙂

      • I’m not struggling with homosexuality. I was struggling with viewing it as sinful. I’m heterosexual, but I don’t necessarily believe that homosexuality is wrong.

        • Homosexuality is a choice and will always be a choice. God did not create us to be gay. We were created to like and to love the opposite sex. God says in the bible (can’t remember the exact verse) that homosexuality is an abomination, and it is. God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. Humans fell into to homosexuality because of sin. What I’m getting at is that homosexuality Is a sinful act; however, we are called to hate the sin but love the sinner. Hope this helps

          • Why would someone CHOOSE a life where they face hate & bigotry???? Why would the people of the LGBTQ community choose a life where others tell them they are an abomination & will not inherit the kingdom of God???? Why would anyone choose to possibly lose friends & be banished from their family?????

            • Because they have been so thoroughly deceived by the enemy (Satan) to believe that their choices are only a reflection of who they really are. It’s not just an intellectual deceit but a deep-seated spiritual deceit.

          • ANYHOW. I enjoyed this blog post. I’ve never personally been told that if I couldn’t speak in tongues, I wasn’t as close to God as someone that can. I’m sorry if you’ve personally experienced that spiritual abuse. I think God blessed everyone with different spiritual gifts 🙂

  22. To your response to Anon2: her and I.

    Her and me.
    Sorry, man, but if you’re going to be a pastor you’ve got to be grammatically correct or people will write you off. Bad grammar kills your ethos.

  23. Point #1 is related to point #3 and point #4. If people can be THAT wrong about stuff (having ministers tell them it’s absolutely wrong to listen to rock and roll music even if the lyrics are Christian and you can’t have any alcohol ever or ever dance ever and women should wear dresses generally and hats to church, etc., OR you have to speak in tongues to be saved, you shouldn’t be so strict and wear dresses to church, must use music in a popular style in order to draw people in, etc.), maybe we should have a little humility and not assume we have the right answers about stuff that’s not essential.

    Didn’t Paul tell us the answer to nonessentail questions in I Cor 2:2? (context, the divisions in I Cor 1). Focus on the essentials, the core of the Faith. Rom 14:1, regarding nonessentials: “Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls.” (ESV)

    • Anyway, I disagree with your first point, and I think your last point is just semantics (there’s a point to saying it’s not a religion, though yes, technically it is), but the five points in between are great. 🙂

  24. “However, believing that murder and adultery are wrong isn’t a core tenet of Christianity. We, as imperfect people, won’t have perfect beliefs on this earth.”

  25. Put these sins in your post and see if it rings differently :)?

    “Before you start throwing stones at me, let me explain this one. To be clear, murder and adultery are both unbiblical. I’m personally against both and feel all Christians should be. However, to be a Christian isn’t about having all your beliefs be the right ones. ” …

    Hmmm…??

  26. Hey Jordan,

    Great post! I’ve never personally had that experience with people saying that about tongues, but it reminds me of the rebuke Paul gave the Corinthians about the exact same thing. To think that it still persists today, even after such a rebuke from Paul…frightening.

  27. To me, when people say “Christianity is a religion” I think to myself, really? I thought that when we became believers we became the bride of Christ. This suggests that we are in an intimate relationship with Jesus. Like a marriage. So I ask. Husbands, wives, do you consider the relationship with your spouse as something you have to do? Or was it because you love each other? Religion focuses on what has to be done to earn something. Relationships don’t work that way. If our relationship with Jesus is like a husband & wife then it’s not a religion.

  28. I think the intentions of your blog is on the right path because God’s word is so straight forward and that’s what your post is based on… But I’ve got to say, as your sister in Christ, I’ve been in your position before as most Christians are (i.e. being criticized, looked down on, etc) but you can’t let that change your perspective of others. By this I mean that regardless of the number of people who comment negatively towards you of God, you’ve got to stretch your arms even wider to them. Although there are many interpretations of the Bible, we weren’t sent to dispute over it, but to share it while reflecting the Lord’s love, grace, peace, and PATIENCE. I know it’s tough but try not to shut those that are narrow minded out. They’re sinners just like you and I, no less, no more. God Bless you and keep up the spreading of His word.

  29. Dude you’re post are awesome And I agree sometimes and then sometimes I’m iffy! But mostly it’s awesome that has this strong passion to serve our a Creator and Redeemer ! Keep it up bro!

  30. I’m glad having read this. Because about what do you said about speaking tongues. (I Never experience) and some people put me down for that. Thank you. 🙂 God bless you!

  31. Christianity isn’t a religion. Religion is a set list of do’s and dont’s. And every religion is different. But they all involve working your way to heaven. The bible teaches the opposite. We aren’t saved by works. We are saved by grace. I see where you are coming from, but Christianity is not a religion. God hates religion because it’s a lie – fooling people into thinking thy are religious and can earn their way to heaven. Great post though. God bless!

    • Don’t be so quick to say what God hates and what He doesn’t. I agree the false religions we see today are terrible but God’s word says differently on true religion.
      James 1:27
      “Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.”

      Not trying to be rude or come across as harsh. The world has corrupted the meaning of religion.

      • Woah, now. Jordan. How is that unbiblical? Hate sin, love people. Isn’t that exactly what Jesus calls us to do? If you’ll recall, he ate with sinners. Shouldn’t we?

        • She was responding to my point about not answering God’s call to lovingly point out other’s sin’s to help them.

          • Wow. Um, I’m sorry that I was trying to help myself and others understand more. It was purely a question of curiosity, not of viciousness. However, I can’t say the same of your answer. I’ll be staying off of the comment section from now on (and away from this blog, since questions apparently aren’t welcome).

            • What? How did that escalate do fast? I’m sorry that you’re unhappy about it. Blessings to you in your future.

      • I was thinking about the “hate your own sin, love the individual” & I really cannot see how that’s unbiblical. I am in no position to tell someone what they are doing is wrong. I never will be. I have not earned an elevated status that I have the right to judge others based on their lifestyle or decisions. In fact, I really don’t think any human has – we’re evenly scored. I know Christians will say as Christians they are called to a higher position, but I don’t think that’s (always) so loving. I think Christians were called to love unconditionally, since Jesus loved unconditionally. Everyone is on their own journey. Meet them right where they are with grace & love.

        • Really? This Kelsey girl is the PERFECT example of why women should keep their mouths shut. Her opinion is so irrelevant. Anyway, great post Jordan.

          • woah woah woah! Back up a second! If women just kept their mouths shut, the Jewish population wouldn’t be here! Remember a girl named Esther?! She defied law to save her people! So much for that theory, Matt. Kelsey made a really good point. And how is her opinion irrelevant?! This was open for discussion.

          • Dude, Kelsey knew what she was talking about. Jesus called us to love one another as He loves us, and to treat everyone equally. Women deserve more respect than whatever you said.

  32. If we are called to live like Christ, to love him and serve him, to love others as he would love them, one cannot stake claim to salvation if they are in favor of abortion, killing another human being. It rejects the 10 commandments as well as Christ’s teachings. It rejects God’s will and power over the sanctity of life. It is a rejection of God.

    • I agree. We by no means are perfect but we should hate evil. And God establishes in our hearts what is evil, all things that go against His commands. Also loving someone with a “brotherly love” wouldn’t condone sin.
      Romans 12:9
      “Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good. 10 Love one another with brotherly love. Outdo one another in showing honor.”

      Hebrews 8:10 “This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

      • David committed murder and was woefully repentant. It is not living in continual sin. Bringing him up does not go with what I said. God’s mercy falls on those with a broken spirit and contrite heart. Not those who go on sinning..

        Not that I don’t mess up and need His grace ALLL THE TIME, I’m not meaning this in a condescending way.

            • He never said they were going to burn in hell and the bible doesn’t say that neither. It says homosexuality, adultery, drunkenness, ect. Is a sin. We can all be forgiven from our sins. Jordan never said they would burn in hell and neither did God

            • In response to everyone who commented particularly about this. Jordan never said they were going to burn in hell and the bible doesn’t say that neither. It says homosexuality, adultery, drunkenness, ect. Is a sin. We can all be forgiven from our sins. Jordan never said they would burn in hell and neither did God.

              “For from within, from the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, avarice, wickedness, deceitfulness, homosexuality, an evil eye, blasphemy, self-exaltation, foolishness. All these evils procede from within and pollute a man.” (Mark 7:21-23 CPDV)

              so making it seem as if Christians think homosexuality is the only sin that is bad is wrong. Don’t twist the words of The Lord or His Word. It is not wrong to love someone who is a homosexual but do not be fooled by the devil, because I know from experience he can make wrong look very appetizing.

  33. I was raised by two strong atheists, and Christianity is new for me (I just became a Christian on Halloween ’13). I’m not sure what I think about everything you said but I strongly agree with what you said about waiting for non-believers to stop by on Sunday morning. I wasn’t reached by my own doing – Christians came into my environment.

      • Good thing it’s not unbiblical to be blatantly rude to that girl with the cool name, Kerilyn. Just because she said something you don’t agree with. So much for people skills, right? Good luck being a pastor…!!!?? Yikessss

      • Jordan, I’m confused as to your comment regarding Karilynn’s post saying
        “I don’t think the bible is inerrant.”
        Didn’t you just say that having unbiblical beliefs is part of being a human? It is normal (though not right or Godly) to believe in untrue, non-Biblical things. And yet, when she made her comment, you blatantly ended the conversation with her, refusing to correct her and help her understand. I just think that maybe this situation could’ve been handled differently on your end, especially after writing a post about that exact thing.

          • Yes, but I believe I covered that in my last comment. You’re right, unbiblical beliefs are not okay. That’s not the part I’m confused about. But that’s alright. Great post otherwise! God bless 🙂

  34. I’m not sure if I’m really disagreeing with you (I’ve clearly done enough of that on your other post) but I do want to point out that I, and I assume others, mean “religion” in a negative context. Yes, Christianity is a religion. But it’s the relationship that matters. Yes, it can be argued that the “rules”/standards in Christianity matter, but the relationship is essential and most important.

  35. Okay…I think I have to disagree with your last one. We are to live out christs love…not to just go through the motions like many other religions (i.e. Islam and there 5 pillars to be better)…

      • its just that… you say that its not a religion…but in christianity, we don’t really need to follow some set of rules to gain Christ’s love. It seems in other “religions” you have to do something to gain the love of the higher power. Christianity you don’t…”for it is by the grace of God you have been saved” Its a relationship MORE than it is a religion. And society calls it a religion, but i feel if you are a christian and you want to please God then you are working on building that relationship and you don’t need to worry about if you do this God won’t love you anymore….

  36. I personally don’t like how you say that believing in abortion or gay marriage is okay. I understand beliefs don’t define who you are necessarily but those are set in stone things in the bible. So if a Christian does think abortion and gay marriage is okay they are being disobedient to God’s word

    • Well half agree and disagree, i few of the last points as the believe in abortion and gay marriage, and what Jesus would do. I feel u werent, i havent read a lor of u after u blocked me but i just want to rebuke you to be careful on the way u write things try to ask for someones opinion about how things may be taken as, sometimes is not understood as we expect it and well, may the Lord bless u and hope we can have that conversation about catholicism we never had

      Greetings

    • I really like this! It makes some really good points. As a teenager, I’ve said several (not all) of these things. I listen to secular music, I plan on getting some ink down the road, and I find myself being judgmental every now and again. A lot of people hold us to unacheivable standards and wait for us to slip up. My answer is always this: “Just because I am a Christian, it doesn’t mean I’m perfect.”

      Am I the only one who feels like that?

    • I think people can work out all these things & more without help or suggestions from anyone: its theirs to work out with God. The Gospel Needs To Be Taught Because Most “Christians” Don’t See It, Or Hear It, Or Understand It: Our Gospel Is Hid To Them That Are Lost 2Cor.4:1-4.

    • Some good things, but definitely didn’t like the part about gays, and same sex marriage. God’s Word is very clear and direct. There is no “however” when it comes to this. It’s not about what we think, or having our beliefs be the “right ones,” it’s about what God says. It’s wrong and it’s a SIN. Period….

      • Homosexuality is a sin, however, lying is also a sin. So is cheating and stealing. We should not be hateful to gay people just because they sin differently than we do. Every sin is equal in God’s eyes. We cannot condemn them. It is not our job. We must show them brotherly love or else they will think that Christians are hateful and if we, God’s people, are hateful to them, then what would call them to try and find Jesus and build a relationship with Him?

    • Telling people they can hold contrary views to God and still call themselves Christians is rather deceitful (whether or not it is intentional is to be determined, though I don’t care at this point).

      On abortion, God is rather clear:

      Exodus 21:22-25 (KJV)
      22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. 23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, 24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

      Psalm 139:12-16 (KJV)
      12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee. 13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb. 14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. 15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. 16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

      Jeremiah 1:5 (KJV)
      5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

      To hold any view contrary to God’s is as anti-God as you can get. If one is honest about their salvation than yes, a pro-abortion view would naturally diminish. However, Christ’s teaching about false teachers can also be applied to false converts:

      Matthew 7:15-20 (KJV)
      15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

      As for homosexuality, the horse is beat dead by OT and NT passages. One can love the person but hate the sin.

      As for tattoo’s, as I tweeted to you on Twitter:

      1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (KJV)
      19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

      This passage has application far beyond sexual immorality.

      Matthew 21:12-13 (KJV)
      12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

      Just as the above passage has more to do with your body being the temple of God then it does any building. Tattoo’s are the graffiti of the human body, a defilement of the perfect creation that – not only does it have the effects of sin – but the consequences of being made ugly by the imposition of unnatural markings.

      • Thanks for the comment. I enjoyed reading through your viewpoint. Others are with you, but I still think that we, as imperfect people, still could think it’s ok to get a tattoo and still be consider a follower of Jesus.

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